Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) team created the new org chart for HHS, said Robert F. Kennedy Jr. during an interview on News Nation.
The HHS secretary said when he arrived at the department, the org chart was “incomprehensible,” and Musk “came in for the first time with a real org chart for the agency.”
“What Elon is doing is he’s using AI [artificial intelligence] to improve health, to improve efficiency, to improve delivery,” Kennedy told News Nation. “He had a bunch of geniuses come over to the department, create an org chart that worked, and consolidated.”
Kennedy’s statements were confirmed during a Fox News interview with Musk and the DOGE team. DOGE member Anthony Armstrong — a former Morgan Stanley banker who is now a senior advisor to the Office of Personnel Management — outlined the team’s approach to agency reorganizations.
“We literally go in — and this is mostly at night and over weekends — with the secretaries of those agencies, and their senior staff, and we’re going line by line in the employee org charts … from the bottom up, talking about every function,” Armstrong said.
He gave the example of having 40 communications offices within one agency, which appeared to reflect HHS: “We don’t need 40, how many do we need? How are we going to consolidate them? What’s the right team to pull that together?” Armstrong said. “It is happening at the highest level, and it is line by line, box by box on these org charts.”
Armstrong reiterated that the work is being done with the secretaries and their senior staff, expressing surprise at the competency of senior staff….
During the Fox News interview, DOGE team member Brad Smith spoke about his work at HHS.
Smith’s first target was the NIH and the indirect costs of research grants, which is currently caught up in a court battle. Then, he focused on the NIH’s 27 institutes and centers.
“They got created over time by Congress, and they’re typically by disease state or body system. And what we know about the body is that all those systems are integrated,” Smith said
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